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Kevin Feige Explains Green Goblin And Doc Ock’s Absence In The MCU Before NWH

By Ishita Chatterjee
January 2,2022

During the lead-up to Spider-Man: No Way Home, many fans asked why it took the MCU this long to use iconic villains like Green Goblin and Doc Ock in their Spider-Man movies. So, Marvel Studios President, Kevin Feige has finally answered this question.

Regarding rogues’ galleries, Spider-Man is probably only rivaled by DC’s Batman. The web-slinger has an iconic lineup of crooks and villains, with the most famous of them being Otto Octavius or Doc Ock and Norman Osborn, a.k.a. The Green Goblin.

Both of them were in the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy. Also, Norman and his son Harry appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man movies, and Doc Ock was teased for a future Sinister Six movie that ultimately wasn’t made.

MCU’s Spider-Man Faced A New Set Of Villains

Vulture and Mysterio

Vulture and Mysterio

But, when Spider-Man joined the MCU he didn’t face the Goblin or Doc Ock. Instead, he faced a different set of enemies who weren’t seen in live-action before.

This included the likes of Vulture (Michael Keaton), Mysterio (Jake Gyllenhaal), and Shocker (Bokeem Woodbine) in his solo movies. Also, Spidey helped the Avengers face-off against Thanos.

Finally, it was in No Way Home that Tom Holland’s Spider-Man faced off against Green Goblin and Doc Ock. But they weren’t from the MCU. Instead, they were versions played by Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina.

Kevin Feige Reveals Why He Didn’t Use Green Goblin And Doc Ock

Green goblin

Green goblin

During an interview with FilmIsNow Movie Bloopers & Extras, via, Feige recently revealed that Green Goblin and Doc Ock were never considered villains for the MCU’s Spider-Man before No Way Home.

He said that this was because he couldn’t imagine anyone else playing these roles. During this statement, he specifically name-dropped Alfred Molina as Doc Ock.

Feige wanted their Spider-Man to be different from the other two live-action movie versions. And one way to differentiate him would be to give him other villains than Doc Ock and the Green Goblin. Feige said:

“For the first few films, it was always, ‘How do we do things that have never been done before?’ It did not occur to us to do a new Goblin story, or to do an Oscorp story, or to do Doc Ock, or anyone that had been done before, which is why Vulture and Mysterio were really the key characters. Even as we were doing that – and I had been saying for years, even before anybody asked me what I thought – that you can’t get better than Alfred Molina as Doc Ock. [I said] stepping into those shoes would be very, very difficult. And wouldn’t it be fun to find a way, if you were ever going to bring Doc Ock back, it would have to be Alfred Molina, and in early development on this third Homecoming movie, we realized that thanks to the MCU, there was a way to do that.”

Was The Decision To Not Use Green Goblin And Doc Ock In The MCU A Good One?

Doc Ock and Peter Parker

Doc Ock and Peter Parker

Now, not including Doc Ock and Green Goblin in the MCU Spider-Man movies makes sense. After all, it was the third reboot of the Spidey franchise and they needed to do something different from the previous incarnations.

So having different villains helped them do that. Also, it puts the spotlight on these new villains. We saw how heavily The Amazing Spider-Man movies relied on Oscorp. That company was responsible for both the spider that bit Peter and also the 4 villains of the movies.

So, the MCU decided to avoid them in an attempt to make their Spidey more unique by comparison, and it totally worked. We are now all witnessing the amazing results of bringing back popular versions of Spider-Man villains as well as the Spiderman themselves from the past movies.

This made No Way Home an event movie that grossed $1 billion at the box office. So now MCU’s Peter Parker has fought Green Goblin and Doc Ock.

As such, we don’t think that we will get to see MCU versions of these characters down the line, especially so soon after No Way Home. After all, it would be sort of redundant to general audiences if this happened.

Spider-Man: No Way Home clearly said that Oscorp doesn’t exist in the MCU, and as such, it’s possible that MCU versions of Norman and Harry Osborn don’t either.

So, we won’t get to see them in future movies. But this is a blessing in disguise, as it would free up the MCU’s Spider-Man to fight other villains like Michael Mando as Mac Gargan suited up as Scorpion.

Or maybe what we all want to see will finally happen with Peter Parker fighting Venom. And with that tease, as well as the fact that it was once in the plans, this seems more likely than ever before.

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